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DDMMM UTC 16Sep 14:33 cul (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:32 gotta run, CW class (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:32 your computer will happily write corrupted data to disk completely oblivious (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:32 ECC RAM too! i think it's absolutely insane that people will spend all kinds of money/time protecting data on disk, and then just leave it to the wolves in RAM (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:30 but i dread the time/cost it would take me to backup that much crap to either the cloud or even USB drives and stick em in a safe or offsite somewhere (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:30 connie took a lighting hit he had a backup after he build the new computer i log in restore everything for him (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:29 indeed. i would cry for sure (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:29 yes but it,s a pain in the axx to loss anything (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:28 i don't have anything that important not already stored on the server. i mainly worry about family pictures/videos. everything else would be replaceable with enough time (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:27 i backup my main computer everyday (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:25 142500 -10 0.1 1714 ~ CQ AD7OV DN50 (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:25 but i do back up everything locally to ZFS and regularly scrub it and take snapshots (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:24 not offsite anyways (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:24 and sadly, i know better, and i don't...heheh (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:23 KQ4CCC Eric, i can,t tell you how many guys call me for help frist thing i ask them you have a backup (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:23 especially when running VMs etc...i can just snapshot the entire system instantly at any point in time, and if somethings gets fouled up, just roll it back like nothing ever happened (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:22 snapshotting is great too. makes data recovery in case of human error a piece of cake (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:21 yes if you don,t need it fast hdd still is good for big backup i bet arrl wish they had more backup a few years ago (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:20 in* (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:20 and data only growing. especially now that we are the 4k~Plus~ era (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:20 exactly. i am not saying ZFS negates any need for backup, but it sure does help a lot. it's actually kind of amazing how reliable HDDs are (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:17 KQ4CCC Eric, that a lot to backup (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:16 i help him build 2 computer (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:16 no (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:16 KQ4CCC Eric, you know connie ng4c (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:15 backing up 20~Plus~TB gets expensive, especially with SSD (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:15 ZFS has end to end checksumming and i scrub it every week. if a drive gets even 1 checksum error, i replace it immediately (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:15 i back up in 3 diff spots (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:14 it always is...until it ain't :-) (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:14 it been fine (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:13 any redundancy or protection from bit rot? (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:13 a full backup takes me 36 sec (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:12 i have when to all nvme to move everything at 20 gb pm (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:11 that pool is well over 10 years old. ZFS is awesome (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:11 once 10Gbit networking really gets affordable, i am moving everything to thin clients/proxmox backed by ZFS pool (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:10 getting ready to up that from 8x4TB drives to 6 or 8 (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:10 WHEW Thanks (K5YT Ed TX EM22mp ) 16Sep 14:10 good now (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:10 140915 -1 13.0 1502 & K0TPP K5YT RR73 (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:09 that ok on msk must guys got f tol at 200 (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:09 K0TPP: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YOup3gd8Ik_Hmr3UR13kddgU2tpyswFk/view?usp=sharing (KQ4CCC Eric NC FM14fs ) 16Sep 14:09 at the frist you was only 45 low (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:09 Thanks for the help Larry, I still have work to do on it (K5YT Ed TX EM22mp ) 16Sep 14:08 Ok Thanks I'll move it back (K5YT Ed TX EM22mp ) 16Sep 14:08 40745 2 7.6 1593 & K0TPP K5YT RR73140745 5 8.1 1603 & K0TPP K5YT RR73140745 6 8.1 1602 & K0TPP K5YT RR73 (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:07 100 too high (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:07 140715 -1 3.4 1599 & K0TPP K5YT RR73 (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:07 Ok Thanks moved it the other way (K5YT Ed TX EM22mp ) 16Sep 14:06 140615 0 2.1 1358 & K0TPP K5YT RR73 (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk ) 16Sep 14:06 140545 5 11.7 1356 & K0TPP K5YT ~Plus~06 (K0TPP/2/6/222 Larry mo EM48rk )
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